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I had an insightful conversation last week with a friend. We were discussing work and the impact of stuttering and how we deal with it when “it” comes up. My friend is not covert at all and could not hide her stuttering to save her life. So, its fair to say her stuttering is pretty obvious.

She and a partner have a successful business and she handles most of the marketing and is the on-line presence. New customers are “handed over” to the other partner to “deal with”. She thinks because her stutter is severe, it’s better and smarter to have her partner deal with “in-person” communication. Of course I disagree, but our choice  to talk about it offered valuable insight.

My friend is very good at what she does. So good, in fact, that she is repeatedly asked to present at conferences. She repeatedly declines these invitations to speak. When I asked why, she said, “well, its obvious. I can’t convey my message”. I pressed her, by asking “according to who?” If she has never presented at a conference, then she doesn’t know her message won’t be conveyed. Right? We can’t be afraid of what we don’t know!

The plot thickens. She very matter-of-factly and honestly told me she fears tricking and cheating people. Huh? I did say that – HUH? She is a great writer, and a loud internet presence. She tells the truth like she sees it, honestly expresses her opinion and says what she thinks, all of the time, even at the risk of pissing others off. That’s why she is so good!

So she thinks people will expect the same loud, brash, “say-it-like-it-is” real person they know virtually. She said people will be disappointed when they meet her in person, and she opens her mouth, and st-st-st-st-stutters. That she will have cheated them. I did not understand this and pressed on boldly (uncharacteristic of me, I know!)

She told me people pay thousands of dollars to attend these professional conferences, and that many would sign up for her talk based on name alone. (Wow, to be that self-confident! She can be, because she’s that good).

Then, when she began to talk, or try to, or block or make painfully uncomfortable facial grimaces, people would know. She would be exposed for the fake and the fraud that she really is. That she is not who they were led to believe she was. And that they had been robbed of their money and would feel cheated. And deserve their money back!

I offered gentle reassurance that of course people wouldn’t be that shallow. That professional adults would absolutely accept her for who she is. And she just looked at me and said, “well, if I stuttered like you do, sure maybe. But that’s not going to happen in my case. And we both know it”.

So my friend asks her fluent partner to handle all of the presentations. For the sake of the business. She says sure, she feels a little guilty, pushing all that extra work on to one person. She hopes that it will soon get easier to share the workload when they get up to speed and bring on a third person.

A person that can speak. That will not deceive conference attendees. That will not demand their money back because they felt cheated.

What do you think?

A covert stutterer posted this question on one of the email groups. It generated lots of discussion and opinions. Another covert woman asked how do we actually show our stuttering at a Toastmasters meeting and “let the cat out of the bag”.  This is what I shared as a response, not realizing that I had remembered this so clearly.

One of the best topics for a person who stutters to give a speech on is stuttering. That’s how I desensitized myself when I joined 4 years ago. My first speech the – “ice breaker” – I told my stuttering story, complete with how I tried to hide it, faking it, how I pulled it off, how it made me feel, etc.

The “ice-breaker” is supposed to be 4-6 minutes. Mine was 15  minutes, because I got emotional and choked up, and did not think I could finish. There was this huge long pause – a wait, actually – and all eyes were on me. This was the first time I had ever told people I had been hiding stuttering all my life. I was fired on May 4, 2006 and I gave this speech on May 23, 2006.
 
While the room waited for me to compose myself, a funny thing happened. I could feel the energy in the room shift. No one was annoyed, no one was rolling their eyes, no one was being dis-respectful. In fact, I could feel most of them “willing” me to finish. I don’t think they were going to let me out of the room unless I finished.

No one said a word. It was utter silence for 1-2 minutes, which seemed forever, and I willed myself to plod along and finish. I swear I felt that energy pushing me to finish.

When I was done, they all clapped like they do for everyone as I walked back to my seat. By then, my heart was pounding and tears were streaming down my face. There was more silence, as everybody wrote little comments about how I had done and put them in a basket and passed them to me. Next, the person who had been assigned to be my formal evaluator stood up and gave his opinion of how I delivered my first speech.
 
As he spoke, fresh tears erupted, as I realized what I had just done. I had just done the scariest thing I could ever have imagined doing to a bunch of strangers. My evaluator, Jim (who became my unofficial mentor) stood at the lectern for a sec, then began his evaluation by uttering one word: “Bravo”.

He said he and every person in the room learned as much as they ever would that night about me, about my courage, my resilience, my desire to communicate, my writing skills and my spirit. He talked of things like wearing my emotions on my sleeve, risking being vulnerable, daring to be so personal in a first effort. He also reminded me of time limits, which I can laugh about now, and how I had started a journey that he hoped I would be compelled to finish.
 
People came up and hugged me after as the meeting got over, and I did not read the little slips till I got home. All of them said something similar – that is was one of the most inspirational first speeches they had heard.
 
A year later, I gave my 10th speech, and Jim was my evaluator again. He referred back to that night, and many of the same people were there. I still go over time a lot, I still get emotional when I share personal stuff, but that’s what makes for compelling speeches.

People want to hear things that are interesting. Even people who don’t stutter can relate to identifying fears, working to overcome them, doing things anyway, feeling struggle and triumph at the same time.
 
Lots of people in my club affectionately refer to “Pam’s first speech” as an example of what Toastmasters can do for a person.
 
In my remaining 9 speeches of the first level, I talked about stuttering twice.. One objective was to speak on something I had researched. So I spoke about the origins of stuttering, best estimates at causes, resources – including support and therapy. I demonstrated the different ways a person might stutter. That was easy. I knew how to stutter.
 
The other speech was on Voluntary Stuttering, as related to helping people get over fears. I related fear of water to a person gradually stepping in, getting their face wet, holding their breath, dunking in water, etc, and what a person afraid of heights might do. Then I explained how voluntary stuttering helps to break the fear someone may have of stuttering publicly. I had everyone try it with a partner and had them do repetitions on their names. 
 
Tackling the fears we have at Toastmasters is as easy as talking about what we know best.  When we talk about what we know best, its easy. We already know the material.

Sounds easy coming from someone who has already done it, but I will never forget how it felt when I made that first speech. My heart thumped, my chest heaved, my cheeks were warm, my eyes were moist. How it felt walking up to the front, how it felt walking back to my seat, how it felt watching everyone write those little feedback slips – WHICH I STILL HAVE – and how it felt to hear a veteran Toastmaster say in his evaluation that I had inspired him and others.
 
We all have a first time doing everything. Members of my club tell me all the time they still have their first comments slips, they still remember the anxiety, the fear, the relief, the PRIDE. Everybody feels it – stutter or not. Most people rank public speaking as the greatest fear, even over death. At a funeral, most people would rather be in the coffin than delivering the eulogy.
 
We all have to communicate in life. Toastmasters gives ALL OF US a place to practice, get feedback, and realize, that everybody has their own sweaty palms, dry throat, pounding heart, nervousness, desire to flee . . . .  not just us.

Toastmasters has the potential to change lives. Check it out. Find a meeting near you and visit.

I had a big outreach presentation yesterday at one of my local high schools. I am beginning to know my material by heart and can give this talk almost effortlessly. I felt especially good because it was a morning presentation and I had more time alloted than usual. So I did not feel pressured or rushed, as I do sometimes. And I even had a remote for my multi- media presentation (a must with kids!) and found myself walking around the room with ease while talking.

I try to involve the kids in the presentations, by asking questions that I know someone will know the answer to. Trust me! This is  vital self-preservation when public speaking. While waiting for someone to respond, it gives me a chance to take a sip of water. You should drink lots of water when talking for a while!

When I started talking about our Information Technology program towards the end, I could see some of the kids looked bored. I asked how many of them had studied a different language. Almost every hand shot up, and they yelled out, “Spanish, French and Japanese”. I asked if anyone knew what computer language was. No one knew. I would just tell them. Nope, not that simple today.

Computers are machines that only understand binary language – the numbers zero and one. Those numbers can be translated into something that us humans can see, read and understand.

I had the biggest block on the word binary. It just wasn’t coming. It came out “bi-bi-bi-bi-bi-bi-NARY”. When I finally got past the “bi”, I pushed “nary” out so hard I was almost out of breath. That almost never happens. In that split second, my mind raced for another word for binary. I couldn’t come up with one – I’m glad I didn’t, but my natural instinct was to try. I also remember my eye squeezing shut as I pushed “nary” out and then I kind of looked around, and the weirdest thing . . .  no one seemed to even notice.

I had been in that “lost place” for those milliseconds, which seemed forever, as I pushed the word out . . . and no one even knew I had “gone anywhere” or what had even had happened.

I took a swig of water, paused and finished the presentation. What else could I do? Just let it happen and move forward, right? Right!

Episode 32 features Leana S. Wen, who currently lives in Boston, MA. She was born in China and lived in Shanghai until she was 9,when her family moved to the United States.

Leana is a resident physician at the Harvard Affiliated Emergency Medicine Residency at Brigham & Women’s/Massachusetts General Hospital. A Rhodes Scholar and graduate of Washington University School of Medicine, Dr. Wen has worked at WHO and has conducted research in the UK, Rwanda, South Africa, and China. She is deeply interested in public health and influencing world health policy.

From 2005 to 2006, Dr. Wen served as the national president of the American Medical Student Association, which has over 65,000 members. At that time, Leana recalls deeply reflecting on her stuttering. She had many public speaking challenges and worried if she had what it took to be a physician and president of the prestigious AMSA.

Listen in to an inspiring conversation about covert stuttering and confronting fear,and learning how to be a person who stutters. We also chat about focusing on fluency to the detriment of other things and why she sought speech therapy as an adult.

In spite of her accomplishments and her acceptance of stuttering, Leana honestly admits that it is very hard to show stuttering to her colleagues in medicine.

Besides being a wonderful speaker, Leana is also a dancer and a gifted writer. Check out this blog she co-wrote for the New York Times, Two For The Road. She also wrote about her stuttering journey for the National Stuttering Association’s May/June issue of Letting Go 2008. Leana’s article is on pages 4-5.

Credit for the podcast safe music clip “Echoed” goes to ccMixter.

Feel free to leave comments or questions for Leana. And for Pam – it is important for me to get feedback too!

I had to smile when my friend Bob W used the phrase “walking naked in a fluent parade.” Bob and I are both in Toastmasters and have participated in Toastmaster Demo meetings at the annual National Stuttering Association (NSA) conferences. We also both contribute to the covert-s email group. There has been a lot of lively discussions there recently.

I had mentioned on the covert list that I had recently competed in my first ever Toastmasters contest. What an emotional roller-coaster that was! Bob commented that anytime a person who stutters speaks publicly at a Toastmasters event, it is like walking naked in a fluent parade.

The imagery of Bob’s simple statement grabbed me right away. I knew exactly what he was talking about, because Toastmasters is all about public speaking and communication, and when you stutter and risk letting your stutter out, you expose yourself.

I immediately visualized walking down a street in my birthday suit with all these other people clad in business suits. Yes, I would stick out, and everybody would notice.

That was the very reason why I would not compete in a Toastmasters contest for my first four years. I was afraid to stutter publicly in front of fluent people. Plus, I was afraid I couldn’t stay within the stringent time frames of Toastmaster competitions.

Well, through my journey with self-discovery, I realized how silly that was. I was only afraid of me. I wanted to see if I could do it – if I could compete with some of the best speakers in my Toastmaster area. So I did.

On October 18, I competed in the Division F-6 Speech Evaluation Contest. I did fine. I got up in front of an audience I didn’t know, and gave an evaluation of a speaker’s speech I had never heard before. And I stayed within time.

I was nervous and my heart was pounding so loud I was convinced everybody could hear it. Like in Edgar Allen Poe’s classic, “The Tell Tale Heart”. But of course, I was the only one who heard it. And I am sure I am the only one who heard my stuttering.

Did I win? No. Was I devastated? No. Was I glad I did it? You bet!

It was a good experience and helped me cross off another item on my list titled “I can’t do this because I stutter”.

Sure, stuttering publicly around others who don’t stutter can feel like we are naked in a crowd. It can feel scary and lonely and very vulnerable.

But it is also kind of special! Why? Because we are unique. We make an impact every time we find the courage to do something that we had been afraid to do.

In the words of my good friend Joe K, “stutter naked”.  Chances are you are the only one who feels naked!

At a recent training, I found myself assigned to one of the dreaded small break-out groups where we work together on a mini assignment.  I am sure you know what I am talking about. The large group counts out numbers, and all the “1”s form a group, and the “2”s and so on. We work on something and then present it out as a team to the larger group.

I have always hated these things. I think everyone does. I was with a group of teachers and did not know anyone. We had 20 minutes to work on our project and then decide how EACH one of us would participate in sharing our results with the larger group. Which meant we would all have to talk. There was no escaping!

No one was nuts about it. Even as teachers who stand up in front of a classroom every day, everyone seemed anxious. We all worry about making a fool of ourselves up in front of a group we don’t know. But, we were all in the same spot, so we just sucked it up and made the best of what we had to do.

Of course, my worry was would I stutter and how much? No one here knew me, and it didn’t feel like a place to do any advertising or disclosure. I don’t think anyone else was worrying about that.

It was a science project we were to work on and then present our findings. Me and science do not mix. There were 4 science teachers in my group, me and one administrator. Everybody set out immediately to work on the problem that needed to be solved. The teachers were busy writing and one even pulled out a calculator and began working on the numeric portion of what would need to be presented.

I was feeling quite lost and after a few minutes of observing everyone working individually, I asked how were we going to make this a group presentation. I also reminded everyone we were running out of time and had not yet decided who would do what. I took the lead, and suggested that the teachers “do” and “present”the middle part and the other non-teacher and myself would handle the intro and conclusion.

Everybody seemed in agreement, and we even decided we would stand in the order we would present. I liked that idea, and with a few precious minutes left, we all worked on what we would say. Even though this was just a simulated science project and nothing real was “at stake”, we all wanted to do well in front of our peers. I insisted we take a few minutes and each quickly review what we each would say. We did, and then it was show time.

I wrapped up our presentation with a summary and “call to action”. I improvised much of what I said in the moment. It came off sounding great, and I was relieved to have had only a few blips of stuttering. Several of my group commented that my wrap-up sounded polished and easy, and I looked very comfortable.

I attributed much of this to my participation in Toastmasters. Practicing impromptu speaking has really helped with my courage and confidence.

On the way out of the training for the day, one of the organizers also commented to me that she thought I had done a terrific job. She added, “looks like you are even a bit of a thespian. You have a flair for the dramatic. Do your students ever pick up on that?”

I told her that I think most of my students tolerate me as much as they do any other adult standing before them!

But I wondered about her comment, suggesting that I infuse a little drama into my speaking. I have noticed that as well when I do a speech in Toastmasters. When I speak in a non-conversational mode and project my voice, as in “acting out a role” perhaps, I stutter less.

I wonder if this is inadvertently a technique I use to manage my stuttering when doing public speaking. I don’t intentionally set out to “add some drama”, but evidently I do, as I have noticed it and others have.

What do you think? Has anyone had a similar experience? Maybe I am courting a new career . . . . . . .

I did  a solo workshop at the NSA conference last week, and also helped with the Toastmaster Demo meeting. Both of these workshops were back-to-back on Saturday afternoon.

On Saturday morning, I worked with a small group of teens. We did some video recording, which will be posted on YouTube and the NSA website (front page, I hope, as these young people’s messages are outstanding).

I gave a speech at the Toastmaster meeting, which I really enjoyed doing. I spoke about my recent visit to England and what it was like visiting a meeting of the British Stammering Association. I thought it was great to speak about this at a US stuttering convention, as it serves as a reminder how global stuttering is.

Doing a Toastmaster Demo meeting is a great opportunity for toastmasters. We get to explain what Toastmasters is all about and the benefits to be gained by becoming a member. It is also very empowering to facilitate a Toastmasters meeting where all the roles are filled by people who stutter.

Toastmasters is highly recommended for people who stutter to gain valuable experience with public and impromptu speaking. You also get meaningful feedback from others which helps you set goals for future improvement.

This workshop was recorded by Judy Kuster’s husband, Tom. (I did not know it would be recorded until I saw him setting up the recording equipment). Judy is the guru of  The Stuttering Home Page. It will be available for sale on DVD. (Eeeeks!)

The other workshop I facilitated was called, “Ch-Ch-Ch- Changes: Sometimes Change Can Change Everything”. A friend and I had talked about wanting to do a workshop like this since last year. She was unable to attend this year’s workshop, so I did the workshop myself.

My focus was on how one little change in our lives can change everything in our world. And the change doesn’t only happen to us. People around us – family, friends, co-workers, significant others – can be profoundly affected by a change we make or that happens unexpectedly. Entire families are affected when a member is an alcoholic or drug addict. Everybody learns how to cope, or deny, in some way.

And when the alcoholic or drug addict enters recovery, that change again affects the whole family. Suddenly, you have to adapt to a whole new person and new family dynamics. It’s not easy – I speak from personal experience.

Same with stuttering. I behaved and thought one way when I was covert for so many years. When I finally embraced my stuttering and let it out, I changed completely. I grew stronger, more assertive and confident, and less fearful. I grew into another person, and people in my life had to learn how to relate to this new person. Or choose not to.

Profound change happened in my life in just four short years. Change that also affected everyone around me. I discussed this in my workshop and shared parts of my personal journey that I had not shared with too many people.

Change is hard. Change is scary. Change is part of life. Change can change everything in an instant. Be ready for it!

Remember back in grade school when you had “show and tell”? You would bring something from home and stand up in front of the classroom and show it off and talk about it. It might have been a favorite new toy or book or even a pet.

Well, I had a chance to do “show and tell” last night at my Toastmasters club meeting. I gave my last speech needed to earn my ACG status. The speech objective was to incorporate technology into my talk. And not just PowerPoint. The speech called for using the internet to both add to the value of the speech and to demonstrate how technology can easily be used in today’s presentations.

The toastmaster manual suggested that the speaker find or create a website that could be used for the speech purpose. The manual also suggested that the speaker send some material about the website in advance to members of the club and ask them to review and comment before the speech.

I was able to do all of that by choosing to share with my club THIS blog. I sent some of the members a link to one of my posts and asked them to read it and leave a comment. I would then show how comments can be moderated during my talk. I also chose to demonstrate  the power of podcasting.

I was taking a risk doing this. It meant that I would be letting non-stutterers into this part of my life more so than usual and that I would be vulnerable. But it was the easiest way for me to demonstrate technology, since I love doing this and could talk easily without using any notes.

It went really well. I had internet access and was able to show the different aspects of this blog – posts, comments, pages, etc. I also showed how audio works and played a clip of one of the podcasts.

Four members left thoughtful comments which we reviewed and discussed briefly during my talk. This demonstrated how technology enables us to interact with readers or listeners.

I was happy with the comments too. It showed that even though my blog and podcast focuses on stuttering, my themes of acceptance and empowerment transcends stuttering. Toastmasters were able to relate to facing challenges and finding ways to rise above them.

I was happy that I chose to do this topic. In a way, I felt proud to be able “show and tell” something that is very important to me, and it felt really good to open up this part of my world to other people who don’t stutter.

Several members were really impressed with the technology I highlighted – namely WordPress, Skype and Audacity. I was teaching too.

Some of the written feedback comments I got included phrases such as: inspiring, fascinating, personal testimonial.

One comment mentioned that I had a lot “ums” and went over the time limit. That frustrated me. I have mentioned before that Toastmasters count the use of filler words such as “um” and “ah” and keep track of time.

As a person who stutters, the use of “um” is often part of my speech pattern. It’s unconscious mostly, as an avoidance tactic to keep from stuttering on more words. I never have figured out how to deal with this effectively in Toastmasters.

Maybe I don’t need to figure everything out. Maybe I just need to enjoy the fact that I was very happy with what I did with this speech.


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