Make Room For The Stuttering

What You See Is What You Get: Episode 5

Posted on: May 28, 2010

Episode 5 welcomes NSA friend Stacey Fitzenrider, who hails from Seattle, Washington. I e-met Stacey several years ago through various stuttering groups and met her in person last year at the NSA Scottsdale conference.

She and 5-year-old daughter Ava came to the Open Mic session that I hosted at 8:30 am on Thursday, as a favor to a good friend who asked me to fill in for him at the last minute.

Always the good sport, I was at the ready at 8:30am. Not too many other people were (!), so I had the chance to chat it up with Stacey and Ava. We chatted as if we had known each other for ever. And Ava did a good deal of the chatting. It was a treat getting to know them.

Really cool fact – Stacey’s “handle” is chattygirl. Don’t ya love it? And you will love Stacey’s gut honesty as we chat about all kinds of things, including choices, parents that stutter, feeling whole, and living life.

Musical credit for the intro song “Today Then Tomorrow” goes to Dano Songs.

Feel free to leave comments. As a matter of fact, I encourage it. Let Stacey know your thoughts.

10 Responses to "What You See Is What You Get: Episode 5"

Stacey and Pam
What an interview!! For all of us who live with a stammer (women and men) Stacey you are an inspiration. I totally agree with What you see is what you get. We need to have the confidence to be who we are. If we choose to use fluency techniques that’s fine but we need to make that choice for ourselves and not feel pressured into using them.

Pam – you have created an amazing space for WWS.


You did a GREAT job! I think that’s really cool that you are so open about stuttering with your daughter.

Hi Stacey

You are truly an inspiration, what I really like is your attitude, you are not bitter , feeling sorry for yourself or hard done by. Listening to your interview has made me take a long look at myself, thank you Stacey xx

Pam and Stacey,
This is a truly honest and inspiring podcast ,I like Pam hid my speech for many years and was in a job that I hated but was comfortable and there for 20 years .
I really wanted to be i childcare and did my school work experience in a nursery ,but soon realised that my speech was being frowned upon by people running it,so gave up that idea at early age.
However a few years ago ,with my speech getting worse (age combined with stress),I was very lucky to be given the chance to work at a school with a deaf child (I studied sign language for 3 years) and so I’m now following my career that I wanted all those years ago at 41 years old. The school accept my speech and the kids just take it all in their stride .
So I feel its never too late to follow what you want ,but do understand the fears in that .
Its also great that your honest with your daughter as I am too.
Thanks Stacey for being so honest !!!

Hi Stacey-
Thank you for sharing your story. I appreciate your honestly. I have a blog you might be interested in:
I also wrote about Catherine on my blog. You might find it interesting. I knew her well and was saddened by her loss.

Can’t wait for the next interview. L


Stacey I applaud you for your honesty and bravery, I know myself as a stutterer that couldn’t have been easy:)

A most fabulous instalment. I second everyone’s appreciation of it.
I loved the more “dialog” type which it adopts. I think it’s a very nice fine tune: it allows to get more into the depth of subject, more than a straighforward Q&A session. Maybe also it’s well adapted to women talking, as you have obviously more sharing ability than we do.

This is the first instalment of this podcast which I listened from begining to end in one row. I think that the quality and intensity of what Stacey said has a lot to do with it. Stacey is typically the type of person who would never get interrupted, stuttering or not, so a lot of inspiration.

I also felt particularly concerned by the issue of having small children and how to cope with them possibly stuttering. That’s a subject to develop, and on which I am certain I, like many others, would have lots to share and learn from Stacey.

If I may direct a question to Stacey, now. Stacey, you said that Ava has more ability to understand that noone is perfect. I am sure this is an excellent characterisation of her characther. But then this begs the question: do you say this because you think that you and/or Andy are “imperfect” because you stutter? And is so, does this not imply that stuttering is a flaw, that none of us can be, or even approach “perfection”, wheras the rest of mankind can?

Sorry to disagree, but I find this troubling.


Hi, Burt. I think my message to Ava is there are so many walks of life, races, languages, cultures, and crosses to bear. Instead of making these things into something to be feared or avoided, I want her to explore, embrace, learn and understand that no one is alike. I think the word “acceptance” can be applied to so many facets of life. If more people in this world were accepting and understanding of each other, I think it would be a much nicer place. All the best, Stacey

Stacey: I know that it’s a little late to make a comment on your podcast but I just want to say that I thought it was really good. Perhaps because I can identify with you, the interview had a big impact on me. I hugely admire your attitude.

Hi Stacey!
Just listened to your amazing podcast with Pam. It was so grand to hear your thoughts and feeling. I can’t wait for the Convention and to see you again! I learned so much tonight!
Take Care,

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